Not really had any problems till I got my new system with Vista and then Bryce 6.1 came out. Not sure who to blame so I am curious of those on XP have problems and those with Vista having problems. I have the funkiest window when I open Bryce in Vista it is like it is detached and the menu bar is over the component bars???

What the?

That's really weird. I'll have to take a screenshot of mine.

I would advice, it if you could be in control of what OS you're going to install, to hold on to XP...  Vista has a few upgrades to go before it can deliver...  Just my opinion....

Have Vista x64 here,.. and no problems that wern't already in Bryce when I switched from XP. Bryce 6.1 does seem to be a little bit more problematic from all the posts Iv'e read, regardless of OS(old code still?)

After reading about Vista at other sites, it seems that many aps do not work properly with it.  Something to do with the drivers, I believe.  Can only thank you for going ahead of me and scouting out the bugs that Vista has.  I'll make my system limp along a while longer, giving Vista time to settle down.  Hope you get it sorted out.

Using Bryce 6.1 on a laptop with Windoze XP. No problems so far................

Agree with Burpee here. I have  just added some more RAM and a larger HD as I dont intend purchasing a new system for at least 2 years, also from what  I,ve heard  microsoft have introduced a heap more pop-up prompts and reminders to the point where the are annoying. perhaps Mr Gates Wants more people to move to alternative OS.  Anyway XP and 6.1 seem OK for me so far.

Cheers
GG

There's a setting in Vista that you need to set in order to fix that header problem.

Right-click on the Bryce shortcut or executable and choose properties. Click on the Compatibility tab and enable Disable Visual Themes and Disable Desktop Composition. Click on OK.

Now open Bryce and the menu should look correct.

Yeah I saw that Jelisa Disable Desktop composition turns off Aero though ugh!

The new system came with Vista or I would have chose differently. Of course Dual core 1.8 and 2 GB of RAM ain't all bad.

No I blame both Vista and Bryce on this. Serious any Vista user try changing to the Aero theme and then move the menu bar....

Too bad Vista takes up 1Gig for itself :(

holy crow you are right! WHAT A HOG!

Why do you blame Bryce when the system requirements don't list Vista in the system requirements?

I switched from Windows 2000 to Windows XP only about 1 year ago...think about that!!

When will I switch to Vista?? A year before the next OS Comes out.

Switch to Vista? Never!  Not in the mood becoming bug-hunter ;).

I just need to blame someone other then myself jelisa! No you are right but they should have done some testing with Vista that makes little sense and is practically asking for problems as all new PC are practically bundled with Vista. Of course I blame developers for most of societies woes!

Aero has a huge performance impact with Cinema4D (from discussion over in the C4D forum and CGTalk), turn it off and the system work generally well.

Funny though, I turned off all the Vista app enhancements and services, now I have XP again, LOL. But..., one thing I do like about Vista is that when Bryce tries to quit(or an app crash), Vista will release the computer back to me better than XP did(i.e. Bryce used to just hang at 99% in TM) so I don't have to reboot for clean app restart.

and you have the memory access limit removed - VERY big issue!

But you should have a choice if the new machine replaces or adds to the system(s) you already have.  Can't you install XP on your new system (and maybe Vista if the old system will support it)?  You still have a legal copy of Vista that you can use at a later date when the drivers/apps mature.

Of course if it's an only system, you are stuck with Vista as it is.

WinXP has had a few years of non-beta development that Vista hasn't had yet.  It seems the problems most are experiencing are in the graphics (OpenGL) area, which MS is "trying not to support."  But there's  too much pressure on them to support OGL, so it should get better.

If  I bought a new computer, the first thing I would do would be to reformat and install winXP.  But that's just me and my opinions.

Quote - I just need to blame someone other then myself jelisa! No you are right but they should have done some testing with Vista that makes little sense and is practically asking for problems as all new PC are practically bundled with Vista. Of course I blame developers for most of societies woes!

Understandable, but remember that Vista wasn't released until the Bryce development cycle was almost over. That doesn't give any time for doing much with it other than making sure it actually runs on it.

Vista was not released to the public you are right. But I have had a release candidate since November and have had several Beta releases as have all the developers I work with for over a year. No, no excuses.

Sorry I have been in IT for well over 15 years now I know how the game is played and I know when they ship shoddy code to make a buck. The stuff they release today as Gold would not have been a beta release let alone in a testing phase. No if you lived in a home or drove a car that required as many patches and updates as programs and OS's you would walk home to your cave.

We are all full price Beta testers for Bryce and Microsoft and to a limited extent Apple too. We really should not put up with it but we do and why do we I guess we do it cause we either love to settle or there is no better game in town. 

Bryce was cheap and Vista came with the computer so I have not a lot of excuses either...

For the amount of computer configurations on the planet, I would call the way Vista/Bryce works well at all, a miracle, lol.

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 The stuff they release today as Gold would not have been a beta release let alone in a testing phase.

I was beta Testing Bryce when it was still owned by Meta Creations and I was shocked when they released version 4 to the public with the amount of known bugs in the program.

They basically had a release date deadline and regardless if all bugs were fixed or not it got released.

I think these days, software is released to public with Minor Known bugs with the lets fix it with a patch attitude.

I'll jump onto Vile's thread hear, since my later one didn't get very far.  I'll also claim my ignorance, what's "Aero?" 

Aero is the fancy bells and whistles GUI. Part of the advanced features, but has a big price tag in terms of resources and some performance.

It is something you shoot from a bow?

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 The stuff they release today as Gold would not have been a beta release let alone in a testing phase.

I was beta Testing Bryce when it was still owned by Meta Creations and I was shocked when they released version 4 to the public with the amount of known bugs in the program.

They basically had a release date deadline and regardless if all bugs were fixed or not it got released.

I think these days, software is released to public with Minor Known bugs with the lets fix it with a patch attitude.

I am still running WIN2000. I do not care to upgrade to another MS product anymore. You say Bryce 4 was released with a lot of bugs. I have been with Bryce since Bryce 2. I agree there were problems but they got fixed fairly fast and Bryce hardly ever crashed on me.

Then I bought and installed Bryce 6.1. This is the worst Byce version I have ever experienced.
The buttons are hypersensitive. I have problems stopping a render (crash), starting a render (crash), adjust the sun and moon (crash), add a material (crash), import an object (crash).
Al I ever get is "Program is not responding". I actually have not been able to complete one scene yet. If they don't come up with a fix soon I will go back to Bryce 5.

It is true that it was a cheap buy, $6.00 is nothing, but it was not mentioned that what  we buy is woth nothing. Not even $6.00. What about the customers that buy this product now for the full price? I do believe that Bryce 6.1 is still a Beta version and we have now the privilege to pay for testing it, send in our bug reports and the eventually are allowed to pay for Bryce 6.5.

I have yet to post a render with 6.1 :( for a lot of reason but one is I don't want to work on fixing a computer or program I just want to do some art if I am in the mood.

AB

I am curious... since I've only experienced 2 crashes with B6, and have been doing a lot with it, are these machines with crashing Bryces are self-built or store bought? If store bought, what brands?

My machines are all self-built, except for the laptops for obvious reason. For me, it is rare for Bryce to crash. The only times it crashed repeatedly was when I was working with a 14 meg image as the background, and some vine objects that I think were glitched, and importing AutoCAD files. And these it was B5 that was crashing. B6 only crashed when I was attempting to edit a huge file that B5 couldn't render. B6.1 has not crashed at all for me.

So, I'm wondering what brands are you all using, or if they are self-built computers.