That looks sweet with the belt! What if the belt was higher, below the breasts, so there was an empire-like silhouette?

Well, an unattached belt won't stay up above the waist, so I sewed in a new pattern piece instead and ended up with this. It does feel vaguely old-timey to me, but I couldn't pin down the period.

I think I‘ll just publish the original babydoll as is quite soon, and take some more time to develop the belted/empire/whatever variant.

Maybe I could add bloomers and a bonnet and call it the damsel outfit. 😂

That might work.  Go for it.

The one downside of that plan is that I already had an idea for a damsel outfit, which would involve a long bodice dress, shawl and hooded cloak. Then one could do renders in which Adventurer LF2, having swashbuckled herself into a pickle, has to be rescued by Damsel LF2's razor-sharp wits and dainty, high-precision lady revolver (or dainty, high-precision lady-crossbow, if one prefers).

Breaking news: the Easter Bunny went on long service leave this year and LF2 was hired as a substitute, so now we've got to get her an appropriate outfit ready.  

You don't have very much time.

That‘s why we’re doing the ears next. If we don’t finish all the details, she can still hop along.

Cool!  I can't wait to see how she sports the outfit.

Haha, don't expect too much. I'm just a lazy old geezer amusing myself and trying a new trick every now and then. In this case making a strapless dynamic outfit that stays up on her chest in both MD and Poser, which I've now achieved. But the cuffs, collar, tail  and bunny ears are also interesting little challenges. She's already got tights, and I think some high heels from elleque will work nicely with the outfit.

You haven't disappointed me yet.

Thank you, thank you!

In case anyone's curious as how I made the piece above: When working in MD, I like to start from patterns I made earlier, in this case a cropped tank top and a pair of panties. I removed all the hemming, connected them into one piece, which I then simplified and shaped until I had a basic one-piece swimsuit. From that I cut off everything up top that didn't look like a bunny suit and switched to a really stiff material for the bust and the corresponding bit in the back so that they would not sag. That's the darker parts in the image. Then in Poser, I added those parts to the constrained group to keep them in place and simulated as usual. I had expected some difficulties along the way, but it actually worked like a charm.

A first go at some bunny ears:

Nice costume, what software do you work with? For my part I have been modeling with hexagon free software from Daz since the beginning and it is a totally different approach.

Nice costume, what software do you work with? For my part I have been modeling with hexagon free software from Daz since the beginning and it is a totally different approach.

I love those ears - for some reason ;-)

I love those ears - for some reason ;-)

Now she's acquired a collar, too. 

She's in full gear now and all hyped up to lay out some eggs.

I might come back to this costume later and do some more detail work, especially if folks are keen to see it in FreeStuff at some point.

I would love to see the rabbit suit as a freebie!

I would love to see the rabbit suit as a freebie!

I'm getting back to this silly frilly thing which I hope to stuff into FreeStuff soon. Do you think this image here would work as a thumbnail/promo without having to tick the nudity box, or is it still too transparent?

I'm getting back to this silly frilly thing which I hope to stuff into FreeStuff soon. Do you think this image here would work as a thumbnail/promo without having to tick the nudity box, or is it still too transparent?

Thanks, that sounds about right. Thinking about it some more, most of the materials I'll be including are rather see-through, so maybe ticking the nudity box to indicate that is not a bad idea.

I'm getting back to this silly frilly thing which I hope to stuff into FreeStuff soon. Do you think this image here would work as a thumbnail/promo without having to tick the nudity box, or is it still too transparent?

The set is lovely. The see-thru-ness is undoubtedly part of it. But for the presentation picture a bit more obscurity might be advisable.

I could also split the difference and use one of the original see-through materials with her bikini underneath.

Bingo!!

Yeah, that works nicely, I think: 

it's great !

I thought it was time I made her a dress. 

Great dress!

Looks like her new dress is bound to nip slips, so she may need some fashion tape (a.k.a. constraint polys) on her chest in addition to the shoulders. 

Love the texture.

Love the texture.

From what I've tried so far, it seems the best way to prevent the nip slip is constraining the fabric at the apex of the bust, which fortuitously coincides with the location of that naughty anatomical detail that we're trying to hide. I'm also not pinning the dress to the shoulders in this particular render but may have to for other poses. In order to prevent the crumpling issues that we had in the Bookworm pinafore, I'll have to make the dress load with a bit of separation from the skin. Here I simulated that by simply scaling it to 102% at frame 1. 

Does anyone happen to know if vertex groups (such as the constrained group used in dynamics) can be set via a pose (pp2) file? I've been trying the dress with a number of poses, and usually constraining at the shoulders and nipples work quite well, but when she's got her arms up, it looks terrible that way and not constraining any areas at all is much better. So, I was thinking having a pose to switch between the two instead of having to fiddle around in the cloth room would be neat.

I can always just try it out, but any insights would still be appreciated.

Never tried it that way but from my experiments it could work. I think you should be able to add all the none constrained verttex in the default group in a pp2 file. It should overwrite the groups so no need to add a pose with it. If you do so the bad boys can also use it if they want to have nude shoulders and more. I would do two files one no constrained and one constrained so that the user can switch back to the default values and in this case the vertex needs to go in the constrained.

Never tried it that way but from my experiments it could work. I think you should be able to add all the none constrained verttex in the default group in a pp2 file. It should overwrite the groups so no need to add a pose with it. If you do so the bad boys can also use it if they want to have nude shoulders and more. I would do two files one no constrained and one constrained so that the user can switch back to the default values and in this case the vertex needs to go in the constrained.

Hmm, I tried it, and it didn't seem to work. I might just save two versions of the dress, a constrained one for poses with the arms down, and an unconstrained one for poses with the arms up and for when one actually wants things to slip. That should cover the most common cases, so that folks will only have to fiddle with the group editor if they want special effects.

Oh just one question, how did you open the pp2 file? I remember that the UV coordinates for the different groupes are not showing if you open it with PoserED. To see what happends you need to open it with a standard text editor.

I'm not quite sure how that's relevant, but I use vscode for all my Poser file editing needs (unless it's just simple search/replace, for which I use sed). It can collapse sections and highlight mismatched braces, so I don't need any special purpose editor.

Lets make it short did you find something like that? The v 3158 ..... are the vert that are in the groupe and they needs to be present in one of those or nothing will happen

vertsGroup _constrained_

{

v 3158

v 3733

}

vertsGroup _softDecorated_

{

v 565

v 566

v 567

v 568

v 569

v 603

v 604

v 605

v 606

I tried two things: copy the .pp2 to a .pz2 and remove everything except for the "vertGroup" data, and remove just the object geometry and leave everything else in. I'm not used to mucking about with pose files anymore, though, so there may be something obvious I may have missed. If anyone knows how to make it work, it would be great if you could share an example file, so I don't have to strain my reading comprehension.

In this specific case, it turns out that if I load the dress with the "sleeves" pulled closer together, constraining them just at the top of the shoulders works nicely for pretty much all poses except when she's straight up lying on her back.

Well I will have a look at it when I find a little time. If I find something I will post it here. Maybe it is also simply not posible to do it.

Well I will have a look at it when I find a little time. If I find something I will post it here. Maybe it is also simply not posible to do it.

I think I'm now quite close to submitting this dress for free stuff. It's just missing thumbnails and a readme, and maybe some last minutes testing. We're at the point where unintentional slips are pretty rare, even without constraining the dress at the "apexes of the bust" (which I try to avoid because it tends to make the fabric fall less pleasantly). Here LF2 and I are testing intentional slips, though: 

The dress is now available in free stuff.